Bleh leaders


And so the leadership thing petered out for lack of contest. I guess that’s what happens when the very idea of leadership in itself takes on centre stage as opposed to conviction of causes which drives the purpose of leadership.

How often leaders fail for either not having any conviction or not following through on their convictions.

Acting on one’s conviction takes courage and exmplifies what good leadership is.  Of course, character is important too and in this regard, this PM we now have is held in such low esteem that all I hear around me is unhappiness with her leadership. Terry McCrann of the Herald Sun went so far as to call her the worst PM ever. Why are our leaders today so flacid…

Will Ms Gillard please go?


Simon Crean is a bit of an elder stateman in the Australian Labor Party. He was acting like one earlier today.

Julia Gillard has succumbed to days – weeks – of pressure and has called for a vote to elect a leader of the ALP, and the PM of course. In a way this is a bit of a pre-emptive strike against Rudd. He would not have been ready but he is now forced to show his hands.

The vote will be on this arvo at 4.30pm. I know many in Australia will be hoping this PM goes and never comes back. We’ve had enough of the dishonesty, lack of integrity, and deliberately misleading Australians on a regular basis. I have found out for a while now, that I am not the only one to switch channels everytime she comes on, either television or radio. LIke many, I’d rather listen to the weather presenter than hear her speak for even 10 seconds.

I hope another succeeds this arvo.

Things that matter (no more?)


 

From: Teh, Ian

Sent:

To: ‘[ ]’

Cc: [ ]; [ ]

Subject: Easter Plans

Don’t worry – I wasn’t going to do anything about my friend and brother’s plans and desires in this regard. I have pretty much decided to just get out of anyone and everyone’s face and do my own thing.

I would probably never understand completely the travails our brother goes through day in and day out, concerning Kuang. Often he seems accepting and well adjusted that these things happen and it is how one reacts and responses that counts. And it is perhaps these sorts of experiences that sees the most deep seated beliefs, cultural influences and upbringing all played out in our responses. We come from a survivalist economic refugees’ heritage to whom superstitions play a huge part. How we let those elements taper off by filtering them through our relationship with our Lord Jesus and His word, will be our lifelong challenge. While I think we all have a role in helping each other in that way, I also believe we can only do so meaningfully if we all belong to the same community of faith in all sense.

But we find ourselves mired in the problems that material and consumerist emphasis brings to Melbourne’s churches in the eastern suburbs. We have pastors and leaders influenced by these emphases so that we end up chasing experiences – not unlike the world’s desire for good movies, good books, latest tech, food,… i.e. experiences. All that interferes with our duty to help each other become more godly, holy and more focused on the Great Commission.

I don’t think ICC/LG has honed itself enough. TF is too distracted by the ills of Melbourne’s disease and if almost always swept along and any attempts to train his thoughts are seen as being unfair to his own views of how to do church, which to me is an aspiration to set up the best shop to satisfy its own customers.

All I long for now however, is a home where I can be planted and grow and help others around me grow. All that learning and instruction bit are no longer what interest me, and neither is my desire to cross paths with people who cant be bothered thinking about what is happening around them.

Regards

IAN TEH

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From:

On [ ] at [ ]:[ ] [ ], Teh, Ian <[ ]> wrote:

Good for you guys. I have a feeling he would stay on for the long haul, but he wants to make the church something closer to Clayton, Grace or even FGA in terms of look and feel. That’s all a by and by for me. Unfortunately.

We (I, more accurately) want to avoid going to repeated church services over the Good Friday/Easter Sunday long weekend because right now, my church going is perfunctory and borne out of a lifetime of habit. Again, unfortunately.

So, going away sounds even better a proposition than just for the usual reason of R&R.

It is only coincidental that I am glad we have a ready-made excuse for turning down the invitation to be part of the re-baptism service. I wonder if you think I can safely send the attached doc for his reading, and I wonder what you think about the issue of re-baptism. Personally, I think he shouldn’t do it and have been thinking about asking him to reconsider but I think I have had enough of doing things like this.

Regards

IAN TEH

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M: [ ]

 

From White to Red


 It rained all day today. Tress and I stayed home and tidied the place up. It was as also a fair bit cooler,with temp hovering between 13 and 15 for much of the day. So tonight I opened a bottle of red for the first time in months. It was a Cabernet Merlot from WA. It was ok. We got a video- Daniel Day Lewis’s “There will be blood” but ended up watching IIndiana Jones and John MacLean instead. Weirdos…

Merits of Migrant Work


bo pien lor bro, this requires hard work and less glamorous compared to jet-setting across the globe to missionise the indigenous…

On [ ], 2013 at [ ], Teh, Ian <iteh@superpartners.com.au> wrote:

Bro –

1.       See how (not) cogent an argument to focus ministry on ABC can be (“cannot invite friend to church because too many migrants”???!!!); and

2.       See how (increasingly) cogent an argument for a ministry that focuses on reaching out to migrant mission fields at our doorstep.

If LG is serious, it should at the very least, re-think its attitude towards migrant ministry and mission policies

Highlighted in one of the para’s was by me

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Evangelical Support for Immigration Reform is Biblical, Not Political

March 13, 2013 By Timothy Dalrymple 2 Comments

Many thanks to Matthew Soerens, who specializes on immigration issues for World Relief, for reading the recent guest post from Mark Tooley and offering this response:

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Evangelical Support for Immigration Reform is Biblical, Not Political

By Matthew Soerens

Recently there appeared here at Philosophical Fragments a guest post by Mark Tooley, president of the Institute for Religion and Democracy, critical of evangelical leaders’ advocacy for what he calls “Comprehensive Immigration Reform,” which he suggests is an example of American evangelicalism slinking toward the liberalism represented by the National Council of Churches.

It is true that many evangelical leaders—including distinctly conservative folks such as Richard Land, Mathew Staver, Jim Daly, Pat Robertson, and Ralph Reed, as well as leaders of more politically neutral institutions such as InterVarsity Christian Fellowship, The Navigators, Prison Fellowship, World Vision, LifeWay Research, and my employer, World Relief, plus scores of Christian college and seminary presidents, denominational leaders, and influential pastors—support some of the same elements of immigration reform as the National Council of Churches.  The basic principles that many such leaders have advocated, which some have referred to as Comprehensive Immigration Reform (though that term does not appear in the Evangelical Statement of Principles for Immigration Reform), and which are also supported by the U.S. Catholic Bishops and by leaders of the Mormon church, include:

  • Ensuring secure national borders (making it harder to immigration illegally);
  • Revising the U.S.  visa system to provide both the high- and low-skilled labor necessary to sustain economic growth (making it easier to immigrate legally in the future, not without limit, but so as to approximate the needs of the U.S. labor market and to keep families united as they migrate); and
  • Establishing a process by which most of those who are currently present unlawfully could, after paying a fine for having violated the law, passing a criminal background check, and meeting certain other requirements during a probationary period of several years, eventually earn permanent legal status, providing a process by which they could ultimately become fully integrated citizens of the United States

While I would not claim to speak on behalf of all evangelical advocates of such reforms, I believe that the primary reason that most have spoken out is not, as Mr. Tooley hints, an embrace of sentimental, liberal theology, but rather an orthodox commitment to the authority of Scripture.

Mr. Tooley is correct, of course, that the Bible does not provide a specific prescription for U.S. immigration policy, but the Scriptures do speak to the topic of immigration repeatedly.  The Old Testament, in particular, is replete with God’s commands to his people to love, welcome, and ensure just treatment of immigrants.  Immigrants are mentioned repeatedly alongside the fatherless and the widow as uniquely vulnerable groups whom God commands his people to love and protect (Ps. 146:9, Zech. 7:10, Jer. 7:6).  The Israelites are commanded to allow their own history as an immigrant people to inform their treatment of those who come into their land (Ex. 23:9, Deut. 10:19). Hospitality—not having one’s friends over for a meal, but, literally, the love of strangers—is mentioned as a requirement for leadership in the Church (1 Tim. 3:2, Titus 1:8).  We are commanded to love our neighbors (Lev. 19:18)—immigrants explicitly included (Lev. 19:33-34)—and Jesus’ response to the question of “who is my neighbor?” offers no hint that our love should be conditioned upon the neighbor’s legal status, ethnicity, or sinlessness (Luke 10:25-37).

Mr. Tooley argues that Scripture never specifically addresses how to treat immigrants whose presence is unlawful: true enough (although Ruth, an immigrant from Moab, was arguably not supposed to have been lawfully allowed into the assembly of Israel, according to Deuteronomy 23:3, but Boaz still allowed her to glean in his fields, as commanded in Leviticus 23:22).  However, we also have no biblical exemption that suggests that the many commands to welcome and seek justice for immigrants should apply only to those who are particularly virtuous and upstanding.  Efforts, published by an organization with population control roots, to argue that the Hebrew ger (the word for a resident alien) specifically meant a lawfully-present immigrant require a great deal of presumption and have been thoroughly critiqued by evangelical scholars.  Given the strong statements of God’s judgment on those who disregarded his commands to protect the rights of immigrants (Mal. 3:5, Ezek.22:4-7), I prefer to err on the side of a more inclusive interpretation even if there is any ambiguity.

While the Scriptures are abundantly clear that Christians should respond to immigrants with hospitality and kindness, sincere believers may still legitimately disagree on the policy applications of these many biblical passages.  My concern, though—and that of many of the leaders of the Evangelical Immigration Table with whom I’ve interacted—is that most American evangelicals have not even reflected on what the Bible says on this topic.  The Pew Research Center found in 2010 that just 12% of white evangelicals say that their views on immigration are primarily informed by their Christian faith; that’s very likely a function of the reality that just 16% say they have ever heard the topic of immigration discussed by their pastor or other clergy.  It sure seems as if we have been skipping over the passages of Scripture that do not fit our political or cultural narrative—a practice of which I’ve been known to accuse theological liberals on other issues.  To correct this biblical blind spot, the Evangelical Immigration Table has launched the “I Was a Stranger” Challenge, providing a bookmark that lists 40 Scripture passages that relate in one way or another to the topic of immigration, which we are encouraging people to read, one passage per day.  The bookmark provides no commentary—we won’t even tell you which translation to use—and we are in no way insisting that every evangelical Christian come to the same conclusion on questions of public policy.  If we are to claim the authority of Scripture over all of our lives, though, we must at least be aware of what the Bible says.

Perhaps as a result of our generally myopic view of the Scriptural witness on this topic, only one in ten evangelical congregations in the U.S. has any sort of ministry or ministry partnership to reach immigrants: too many are missing what I am convinced is a divinely orchestrated missional opportunity.  Even with such a meager effort, though, immigrants already account for a significant and growing segment of American evangelicalism today: many evangelical denominational leaders have told me that their denominations would be on the decline if it were not for the arrival of immigrants—both those who arrive in the U.S. with a vibrant Christian faith and those who hear and accept the gospel for the first time in the U.S.  As churches engage in ministry, leaders encounter face to face the dysfunction of our U.S. immigration system, which in too many cases results in families living apart from one another for years or decades, sends those fleeing persecution back into harm’s way, facilitates workplace exploitation and even human trafficking, and threatens our national security, because it becomes nearly impossible to sort out the “needles” of those few with malicious intent from the “haystack” of the many simply seeking the dignity of a job, which was unavailable to them in their country of origin.  Our current system also mocks the biblical ideal of the rule of law (Rom. 13:1), because rather than spend billions of dollars to fully enforce a law that could devastate the U.S. economy, both Democratic and Republican administrations have looked the other way as employers and immigrants alike have skirted the law.

Mr. Tooley also suggests that evangelical leaders have not considered the consequences of reform; to the contrary, through their relationships with immigrant church leaders, in particular, many see and hear on a daily basis the dysfunction of our current system.  Many have studied very carefully—in consultation with biblical scholars as well as economists and legal experts—the effects of reform, and they have coalesced around support for policies that are also supported by both the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and the major labor unions, as well as by law enforcement officials and most Americans.

Indeed, most white evangelicals, most Republicans, most Democrats, and most Americans all say they support the same sorts of common sense reforms as evangelical leaders.  But legislators have been intimidated by carefully coordinated phone call and fax campaigns organized by population control groups, who oppose further migration because they believe too many human beings will result in environmental degradation.  The Human Life Review recently published an exposé on the extensive ties between groups such as the Federation for American Immigration Reform, the Center for Immigration Studies, and NumbersUSA to the population control movement.  The founder of all three groups, whose population control ideology drives his opposition to immigration, is also a strong advocate of abortion rights: he started a Planned Parenthood chapter in Michigan and speaks approvingly of China’s one-child forced abortion policy.  NumbersUSA is explicit in its population control goals: “We’re very clear about what we are,” spokesperson Rosemary Jenks told WORLD Magazine recently.  Given that Mark Tooley’s Institute for Religion and Democracy’s website says it opposes “population control (which almost always includes abortion on demand),” and his reasoning that evangelicals should not address immigration policy because it might distract us from defending pre-born life, I was startled to note that the organization’s board of directors includes a NumbersUSA Vice President.

My challenge to Mr. Tooley would be to look carefully at where he is getting his information about immigration, and then to accept the 40-day “I Was a Stranger” Scripture-reading Challenge.  I’d further challenge him to invite an immigrant family from a local Latino church over for lunch, simply to listen and try to understand their perspective.  For many other evangelical leaders, that combination of Scripture and relationship has proven transformative, turning them into strong advocates for just, compassionate, common sense immigration reform policies.

 

Bridge Query


From: Ian Teh <>
Date: (recently)
Subject: Visitor Query
To: contact@bridgechurch.org.au

Good morning

My wife and I attended the East Campus service the last 2 Sundays and on each of those visits, David’s message resonated with us and made us think about our church life and commitment to both the church and the community.

We were Malaysians and moved to Melbourne in 2004. We attended a church in Glen Waverley from 2004 till Nov last year, when we decided to move on. Partly due to our travels (summer holidays and to Canberra where our daughter goes to Uni) we have not been able to settle into a new church. My wife’s colleague mentioned the commencement of the East Campus so we went there and like I said, David’s message connected with us like no Sunday sermons have for a while now.

We are inclined to ask to be part of East Campus going forward. My background however, is as follows:

  • I grew up in a Methodist church in Malaysia
  • I came to know Jesus as my Lord and Saviour when I was 14
  • I went to uni in Sydney and was a regular at the Campus Bible Study taught by Phillip Jensen who was at St Matthias in Sydney and is now the Dean of the Cathedral in Sydney
  • I consider the formative years of my Christian education to be when I was in uni, at Phillip’s classes
  • While in uni in Sydney, I also attended meetings relating to John Wimber’s visit and heard and read his teachings
  • I have done minor studies and read a bit on John Wimber’s work, the Vineyard work generally and I particularly learned a lot from Wayne Grudem’s work
  • At this moment, I believe the following:

o   Speaking in tongues is one of many gifts and is not required as evidence of baptism in the Holy Spirit (second limb of 6th item in Bridge’s statement of Beliefs)

o   Healing and prosperity is part of the “now and not yet” phenomenon and so is not a given in this lifetime (Item 8 of Beliefs)

o   The power of the supernatural which is the work of God through the Holy Spirit is principally borned out in conviction of sin and acknowledgement and acceptance of the person, deity and work of Jesus. I believe this is a different slant from that inferred in the Vision and Mission statements of Bridge

My wife and I share the same background and beliefs.

I will be grateful if you can share your thoughts with me, on whether I will be able to share in fellowship with Bridge Church and be planted at the church to be part of your community, work and mission, instead of visiting “as a potted plant”.

Many thanks for taking time to read this, and my apologies if this has been a bit long.

Regards Ian

Consumer Me


Tress and I were at the “East Bridge” again this morning. We were actually headed for Edge again when we decided to go to Bridge instead. We were a little late as a result but I was thinking that as long as we were going to be at a consumer stage of our church life, we might as well go where we can get more out of the experience.

Going to Edge must mean we can participate a bit more than just being there on a Sunday morning but with a near non-existent small group space, that is going to be a hard slog and we’re just not up to it at this stage.

Bridge at Doncaster however, had all the elements that consumer approach to church life can offfer. As long as we see church as a brand of consumer products, it ticked every box and had all the right elements in a menu. In fact it ticked the right boxes much more convincingly and passionately than most other churches we’ve been to, including ICC or now known as LifeGate.

 

Tid Bits


Adieu Baillieu.

Ted Baillieu, the state premier for the past 2+ years, resigned last night. Tress and I were home watching tv as we’ve done on most evenings lately, when the news flashed across the screen. It was reminiscent of when Kevin Rudd was removed. In that case however, he didnt resign as Ted did. It also wasnt precipitated by what appears to be the cause here, which was a combination of the resignation of a LIberal MP in a very tight majority and some inappropriate dealings in the course of removing a controversial police chief commissioner. Rudd on the other hand, was stabbed in the back by an ambitious Gillard who were pushed along by members of factions in the Labor Party who are not elected members of parliament.

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Other than that piece of news last night and this morning, Victoria is also generating news for it bad economy and horrendous weather.

We’ve had 30+ temperature for so many days now and on some nights it gets up to high 20’s as well. Last night for example, we slept with t he cooler on and I think Tress got up around 3am to turn it off. I feel as though I have been in a dreamy state lately because the nights have been hot and restless. It has really meant I have been feeling other than my usual self – restless I guess.

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So United goes out once more. Champions League is the one unsatisfactory arena for Sir Alex. 2 titles in his long reign are far too inadequate and close as it was yesterday, it often feels like a bridge too far. Certainly the twerp of a referee who unintelligbly flashed a red card at Nani, didnt help one bit. A commentator rmarked that that ref was probably the only one in a stadium of close to 80,000 who thought it was a red card and I couldnt agree more. Maybe this means we have a better shot at getting a double – something we havent done for a while now.